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12-27-2009, 04:06 PM
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lol lol lol, i'm result 3! and another lol. but you the EXPERT (lol) don't know why. lol, some expert!! lol,
edit: and thats not from doing any link exchanges lol, but oh course you're the expert. thanks for pointing that out austin, you are showing how great you are. from now on i'll be linking to this post when trying to convince others how much of an expert you really are. well done
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12-27-2009, 04:10 PM
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Ya I know why...it is a POS non competitive key word!
Any other questions??
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12-27-2009, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DCAustin
Ya I know why...it is a POS non competitive key word!
Any other questions??
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pos = piece of **** ?
so why wouldn't i come up even if it's a pos non competite key word? when i do come up of course, but not for you. go on expert, have a try guessing why you, in austin, get different results to someone, me, in guildford. because it's a pos non competitive keyword would menai do come up, not don't come up silly, but i do, just not for you, someone in austin, but i do, someone in guildford. hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge. jees get over yourself, just realise that everytime there is a post on this forum asking to link exchange, i'll be there ready to say why not. my arguements for why not win over yours as to why, because you're wrong, so peopel wont bother, which is greast as i'll be saving them from risking wasting their time link exchanging.
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07-11-2010, 12:09 PM
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Google's take on it
Link exchanges are NOT the way to get to the top of the rankings, they can be part of a bigger strategy. I would recommend no more than 1 out of 15 or 20 links be from a link exchange, and don't have a link farm page.
http://www.google.com/support/webmas...n&answer=66356
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09-01-2010, 12:21 PM
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RE: How Your website is Ranked through Googles Eyes
It seems that Google continues to play the online game of cat and mouse.
According to Google they now use the following 3 criteria to make sure your site stays high up in the rankings. The criteria are:
1. Is your site actually what your target market is searching for? This would make a Title with good buying keywords crucial to letting the search engine "spiders" know what your site is about.
2. Content value. This would mean that irrelevant images not alt tagged would be bypassed by the "spiders", decent content loaded text is imperative and overloading on keywords now becomes a dangerous game that can get your site sand-boxed quicker than you can say Boo!
3. Website Activity. Simply meaning that if you are getting a ton of visitors to your site then Google will know that it is a popular site and reward that site with a better ranking.
Is back-linking, blog commenting, PPC, SEO, article marketing, press releases, web 2.0 all important? Yes definitely but depending only on what you want for an online marketing strategy.
Best advice would be to keep it simple, honest and relevant.
Happy cleaning 
Hughsie
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09-01-2010, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Hughsie
It seems that Google continues to play the online game of cat and mouse.
According to Google they now use the following 3 criteria to make sure your site stays high up in the rankings. The criteria are:
1. Is your site actually what your target market is searching for? This would make a Title with good buying keywords crucial to letting the search engine "spiders" know what your site is about.
2. Content value. This would mean that irrelevant images not alt tagged would be bypassed by the "spiders", decent content loaded text is imperative and overloading on keywords now becomes a dangerous game that can get your site sand-boxed quicker than you can say Boo!
3. Website Activity. Simply meaning that if you are getting a ton of visitors to your site then Google will know that it is a popular site and reward that site with a better ranking.
Is back-linking, blog commenting, PPC, SEO, article marketing, press releases, web 2.0 all important? Yes definitely but depending only on what you want for an online marketing strategy.
Best advice would be to keep it simple, honest and relevant.
Happy cleaning
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Hughsie, that's the best piece of advice on SEO I have read so far 
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09-01-2010, 10:09 PM
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Thanks for the Info guys... Everything thing helps
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09-02-2010, 04:59 AM
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Hughsie, that's the best piece of advice on SEO I have read so far |
Thanks Andrew. Appreciate the feedback. 
It just baffles me how we(including me very often) seem to over complicate things when It comes to marketing our services online. What we need to concentrate on more is how we are going to cement an ongoing relationship and repeat business with a new prospect once we've got them on board.
Marketing in my opinion, is only one part of a battle to acquiring market share with our business. Relationship building is what keeps your customers wanting to see your business succeed by telling others about your great service.
Sounds obvious but hand on heart, how many of us are actually doing this correctly everyday? 
Chat soon.
Hughsie
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09-08-2010, 04:50 PM
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Black Hat?
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10-20-2010, 09:59 AM
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black hat = online marketing that violates most search engines TOS.
Link building or exchange is not black hat. Only if you buy links.. The thing is, link exchanges typically don't weigh in for much help, but for a small company in a small market... anything helps. Just like these guys
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10-20-2010, 10:09 AM
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link exchanging for the purpose to boost your serp and nothing else is black hat. the proof is obvious. how would google benefit by increase a sites seo that only is that high because they've swapped links? the points of gaining serp for linking is as a sign of recommendation so google thinks the site must be better, link swapping isn't there and is not what they want to promote good results. at the end of the day if google give bad search results they lose their only source of income so will do everything to ensure the results are what the searcher wants and not what the companies push to be at number one.
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10-20-2010, 10:42 AM
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straight from the horses mouth.
http://www.stonetemple.com/articles/...s-061608.shtml
just search reciprocal on that page..
Matt Cutts says (google spam engineer)
"So, we tell people to avoid excessive swapping;" meaning dont use link swapping as your only source of inbound links.. He admits, "we dont penalize it when it's not excessive"
Also.. you may want to take into account.. Bulletin boards, like this one.. are essentially giant link swaps on a huge scale.. I see you understand that by your signature.
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10-20-2010, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Drying Specialists
straight from the horses mouth.
http://www.stonetemple.com/articles/...s-061608.shtml
just search reciprocal on that page..
Matt Cutts says (google spam engineer)
"So, we tell people to avoid excessive swapping;" meaning dont use link swapping as your only source of inbound links.. He admits, "we dont penalize it when it's not excessive"
Also.. you may want to take into account.. Bulletin boards, like this one.. are essentially giant link swaps on a huge scale.. I see you understand that by your signature. |
Thanks for the heads up on that info
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10-20-2010, 11:37 AM
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np...
our seo taught us quite a bit. we keep him on retainer for month to month work, web updates and questions like this. The ideas you can get from talking with a dedicated marketing company are well worth their costs. i can recommend a few people.. as long as your not marketing our area 
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10-20-2010, 11:38 AM
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good to see that you wont get penilised for small amounts though you will get penalised if you link to someone who is doing blakc hat, which i bet is something no owner or a cleaning website will do regularily check or even know how to, and also you'll lose a very smal amount of serp for out bound links so you don't really want to swap too much either. say a little amount of 15 links you swap, this isn't really going to gain much serp, but can harm a lot if done incorrectly. imo not worth it for those who aren't experience with this.
also have to take into account you've quoted a story written over 2 years ago. google will most definitely have updated their thoughts on link swapping given how common it has been over the last 2 years so anything said back then can't be taken too much as though that's what is happening now.
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10-21-2010, 02:25 AM
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wow, this debate is still raging. I haven't had a chance to come in here for quite a few weeks and Im surprised to see this thread still going. SEO is a very hotly debated topic in most forums. Common sense and going to the google webmaster help site is usually the best advice you can get on any matter to do with seo.
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11-10-2010, 02:24 PM
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Link Exchange or not?
so what is the consensus now days. Should I try to trade links with other companies? Should I have a dedicated links page on my site? does having a signature with my website link help that much?
Thanks
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11-12-2010, 12:31 AM
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great discussion guys
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