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post #21 of Old 02-19-2009, 09:34 AM
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Even experts can be wrong!

I found this blog entry recently and realized that the experts aren't always right.
http://maidservicecoaching.wordpress...009/02/11/219/

I posted a comment to help clear up the confusion, though I suspect it will be removed from the blog. No one likes to be wrong.
On February 19, 2009 at 5:57 am TailoredMaid Said: Actually, the use of vinegar voids the warranty on any floor with a polyurethane finish. Your “uninformed” client was actually right. Go to the link in CleaningTalk.com (on your first page) and see a link for a wood floor care guide distributed by the Wood Flooring Manufacturer’s Association. The only time you see their recommendation to use vinegar is when you need to bleach out dark water spots. That’s because it eats away the finish.


Here is the link to the floor care manual I am referring to:
http://www.cleaningtalk.com/f2/floor...download-2417/

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If I had intense jealousy and hatred against another human being, I would be too ashamed to let them see it.

Your business failed. Mine has succeeded. Instead of going to my blog to find ways to further your inappropriate attacks on me, why not celebrate the fact that against all odds, I have an establishment built from the ground up that survived an ongoing recession and continues to thrive.

You are certainly welcome on my blog if you come there with a positive attitude. But if your purpose in entering my blog is to seek out evil and to try to discredit me on something I put hours of my personal labor into, stay away.

I don't seek you out. Don't bother you. Don't even know you.

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Cat,

You are right. I should have never gone to the blog you constantly promote here. If I understand you correctly, you say I may only contribute if I agree with you?

It's a shame that correct information relating to the cleaning industry cannot be discussed or shared between us. Although correcting bad information could be deemed as "discrediting" someone, I am not motivated to do that. In fact, just in this thread alone I have been thanked for my "corrections". I do believe you've purposefully made it a point to discredit me plenty of times here, despite the "proof" that I provided to back up my information. I've never professed to be an expert. I do admit if I am wrong. I don't believe I have ever seen you admit to being wrong or making mistakes. Why is that?

I can assure you I am neither jealous or full of hate as you have implied. I am not even sure why I would need to be? Is there something you have that I would want?

I chose to close my business for valid reasons. None of which are due to any failure on my part:

  • (removed by author) is making a movie about my husband and I. I consider this an honor to be working with them. The movie is written by (removed by author), the same screenwriter who did "(removed)" and "(removed)", among other titles. This movie is based on the newspaper stories that won 6 Pulitzer Prizes and the medal of honor for public service. The movie covers our media coverage and Congressional testimony that FOREVER changed the way our veterans are cared for after serving their country with honor and valor. Our entire military healthcare system has since been overhauled because of our desire to create positive changes in a very broken system.
  • I worked with Children's Television Workshop as a consultant so they may create television episodes to help children deal with having a parent who is disabled. The newest one will be aired in April 1st, 2009.
  • I am now working with lawmakers on Capital Hill to pass a bill that will help wounded soldiers and their families deal with the financial aftermath of the recovery process.
  • Simply put, I don't have to work in order to pay our bills. My standard of living is quite comfortable. I choose to spend my time helping others any way I can...even here.
We are not competitors. We aren't even in the same league.

Now if you will excuse me, I am expecting a call from (film company removed) at 1pm and have better things to do. We are discussing a new project and I have a lot of work ahead of me.

I recommend reading the information I provided. Apparently you didn't do enough research and we all know how you feel when people don't do enough research!

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LOL! I needed a laugh today. Thanks.

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LOL! I needed a laugh today. Thanks.

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I am glad I was able to bring you laughter. Laughter IS the best medicine!

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Here's a great list of tips for hardwood floors.
http://www.wall2wallcleaningservice....od-floors.html
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to clean hardwood floors the best in our practice is ZEP for hardwood and microfiber mop
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Make sure to use a high-quality, indoor broom as abrasive bristles can leave scratch marks. You can also vacuum if your hardwood flooring has loose boards, gaps, or impossible-to-sweep trim areas. Make sure not to use a vacuum that has a beater bar or “grabber” with non-retractable, abrasive bristles.

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I use Proforce All Purpose floor cleaner. It is available at Sams Club at under 7 bucks for a concentrated gallon. I have been using it for almost 2 years now and have never had an issue with it streaking, leaving a film or being sticky. It's been great. I dilute it in a spray bottle and spray it on the floor. I then use a bucket of hot water and a damp cotton mop (O-cedar cotton mop) to clean the floor. I've used it on hardwood, marble and ceramic tile. Always does a nice job. Just let the floor air dry which happens quickly if you wring out the mop well and use HOT water!

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Hardwood Care

I recommend using Bona products for your hardwood floors. Also a good canister vacuum cleaner is good to get up all the dirt first.
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We mostly use BONA hardwood floor cleaner

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Murphy's Oils Soap should only be used on unfinished floors. Which are virtually nonexistent nowadays. Old habits die hard, I guess. Using Oil soap will probably remain in our cleaning mythology for awhile. The thing is, almost all hardwood floors now are sealed with polyurethane. So you aren't cleaning the wood, you are only cleaning the polyurethane. You can use almost any ph neutral hard surface cleaner with good results. I use a microfiber flat mop to clean the floors. I have used a string mop before, but it leaves way too much water on the floor. And those sponge mops just won't cut it. I recommend hard surface cleaner and a flat mop. Make sure to dilute your cleaner appropriately.

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Best ever is Bona, you should try it.. especially with the most picky customers

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I know that many people will say this is a no no, but I use a steam vapor machine. This is not like most steam machines or "steam mops". A steam vapor machine puts out only five percent moisture. I always turn the pressure regulator to a low setting for all types of wood floors. If I am doing a laminate floor, (which are more susceptible to warping and buckling,) I lift the mop before pressing the steam trigger so that the steam is not released directly on the floor but rather just moistens and warms the floor brush and cloth. I use a white cloth so that I can clearly see when it has picked up enough dirt to need changing. I have been doing it this way for a couple of years week after week on the same floors, and my clients are very pleased with the results. There's no residue to dull the finish, no odor from a cleaning product, no streaks, and the floors literally dry in just a few seconds. I think it's the next best thing to getting down on hands and knees and doing it the old fashioned way (but it does cost a lot more.)
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I would try using a product called Wood Loves It. About three weeks ago I purchased it from a website called Zero Effort Store and received it pretty quickly. I use it on everything wood in my house from my cutting board to the wooden floors in my living room. It leaves a funny smell, but it goes away after an hour or so. Here is the link http://zeroeffortstore.com/product.php?id_product=10. Hope this helps.
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Vinegar here too...
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Same here...but I dilute mine 60% water- 40% vinegar....with only a slightly dampened mop.
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I recommend using Bona products for your hardwood floors. Also a good canister vacuum cleaner is good to get up all the dirt first.
Yes this is a very good cleaner too. I use this when customers don't care for green otherwise its vinegar and water.
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Vinegar is actually NOT good for wood floors, as it IS mildly acidic and will gradually deteriorate the floor's surface.

I wrote a blog about it on my website, and a flooring company rep happened to see it and complimented me on it.

I only use Bona, and the results are fantastic.
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Here's some more info on why it is not a good idea to use water and vinegar on hardwood floors:

from http://ezinearticles.com/?Cleaning-H...e-No&id=617290

Water, Your Floor's Worst Enemy!
Most floors today are factory finished. That means that the finish starts and stops at the edges of every board. In the dry seasons of the year your wood floor shrinks, leaving pathways between boards allowing water penetration. Thus it is highly recommended NOT to wet mop a floor and risk leaving a puddle of water sitting in these cracks that will cause your floor to swell and discolor. It is much better to use a terry cloth mop and spray a light mist of cleaner or water onto the mop or the floor.


Vinegar, To Do or Not?
And lastly should you use vinegar? Remember that cleaning a hardwood floor is all about cleaning NOT WOOD, but rather the chemical finish on the wood. You know by experience that anything acidic will etch chemical finishes. Now I'll agree that vinegar is a very mild acid and floor finishes today are extremely tough, but when cleaning hardwood floor with vinegar, used weekly, over years of application it will leave microscopic surface scratches that cause the light to deflect in strange ways and reduce overall shine. If there are better "neutral" cleaning products available why take the chance?


about the author

Karen Lacasse draws on 25+ years of woodworking experience, both as a woodworking teacher and industrial woodworker/owner of Lacasse Fine Wood Products. She is the author behind http://woodsthebest.com where you will find articles and resources to help with all your buying decisions for Hardwood Flooring. She designs woodworking craft patterns and shares her wood crafting knowledge.


from http://www.hardwoodinstaller.com/har...d-cleaning.htm


Vinegar and Water
This system has been used for years and some still stand by it's use. However vinegar can be acidic for floor finishes. Initially, you may not notice the effects, but used consistently over the years it will affect the shine of your floors. Additionally, using too much water in the actual application always results in problems or ruined floors.


More important than being aware lies in many common cleaners and those mentioned above can possibly void any warranty you may have with any new hardwood floor or finish.




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from http://www.woodsthebest.com/Flooring/Flooring_Maint.htm

Hardwood floor care should never include wax, or oil-based detergents or vinegar. Vinegar will etch the surface. Waxes and oils leave a sticky residue on the surface of the wood and prevent the polyurethane from shining. When cleaning hardwood floors you need to use a proper hardwood floor cleaner.


from http://www.care2.com/greenliving/nat...-greening.html

Don’t use vinegar. Low pH cleaners (acidic, like vinegar) can dissolve hard water and mineral deposits, but can’t tackle dirt and grime. Many people rely on vinegar, but since it is an acid it will eventually dull the finish.

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