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post #1 of Old 07-18-2011, 12:02 PM Thread Starter
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HELP on church bid!!

Im bidding on weekly cleaning for a church, vacuum, dust ,sweep, mop, trash and windows. The total sq ft is 10,000.

5 carpeted classrooms totaling 2300 sq ft (all have desks except for 1 which is empty)

675 sqft of tile hallway

1100 sqft of carpet hallway

500 sqft little cafe that they need moped with a special chem due to floor waranty

1 small private single person bathroom

2 650 sqft bathrooms with 3 stalls each and 2 sinks

2 15 x 15 carpeted offices

5400 sqft or carpeted church area

32 trash bins to empty(we dont supply the liners)

How many man hours could this range?
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post #2 of Old 07-18-2011, 12:48 PM
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How many guys are working with you?

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post #3 of Old 07-18-2011, 12:55 PM Thread Starter
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The job will be done by 1 person.
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post #4 of Old 07-19-2011, 06:56 PM
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I'd say 2.5-3 hours. The carpet will go fast if you have an appropriate vacuum.
For example this one.
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I'd say anywhere from 6.0 - 6.5 hrs. by yourself. Get a helper and you can do the job in 3.5 - 4.0 hrs. Decide on an hrly wage for yourself and helper. Include the cost for supplies. Gasoline/Mileage is also a consideration.

If I were to bid on this job, my hrly wage is $40.00/hr - partners is 17.50/hr. Additional costs are: supplies and a full tank of gas.

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If you make a $240 bid, per week, I wager you will not get it. $40 per hour is low, if you factor in only $17.50 hour for a helper. The two of you, that's $57.50 per hour, $28.75 per man hour is low. What if it was a 3 man crew? That's only $65 per hour, $21.67 per man hour. All of the sudden a big crew brings that down to $17.50. That's not profitable. How about $35 per man hour? A two man crew is $70. A three man crew is $105. It does not matter what you pay them, everyone gets the same billing rate. What you pay them deducted from your hourly rate is the profit. I can't pay someone $12 per hour and then only bill $17.50 per hour.
I stick to my 3 hour estimate. It really isn't much work with a commercial vacuum of a semi large size. I'm liking this 16" machine even more, partly because I prefer dirt cups to bags for economy and convenience.
If it my bid, it would be around $105. If it was less than 5 miles away, I would not charge for mileage. Anything over 5, I'd charge 55.5 per mile, the IRS rate for 2011.

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If you make a $240 bid, per week, I wager you will not get it. $40 per hour is low, if you factor in only $17.50 hour for a helper. The two of you, that's $57.50 per hour, $28.75 per man hour is low.
How about $35 per man hour? A two man crew is $70. A three man crew is $105. It does not matter what you pay them, everyone gets the same billing rate. What you pay them deducted from your hourly rate is the profit. I can't pay someone $12 per hour and then only bill $17.50 per hour.
I stick to my 3 hour estimate. If it my bid, it would be around $105.
Over the past few years, the common complaints have been, "they're in-they're out in no time." Another is "they aren't completeing the work they said they would." And still another, " I can't justify paying someone for a lousy job."

The first question from a potential client is "How are you different than the others?" My answer is simple, "I work the account as if I am an employee of the client. If I don't perform my duties, I shouldn't be paid." I ask the client to evaluate my performance periodically. I then offer them a FREE cleaning that I ask they evaluate. Once the client sees my work, I let them know that this is the standard that I follow. Anything short of the standard should not be tolerated. This pretty much seals the deal for the account.

Clients are willing to pay for good services. When looking at a job, I estimate, "How long it will take me to complete the job based on my standards." Most of the time, the jobs take me longer to complete. But I know that the extra time will mean a satisfied client and a long relationship with them. I'm not looking for numbers of clients, I'm looking to provide a quality service. This has worked out for me.

I feel that $40-$45/hr. when working by myself, is a fair wage.


I pay my helper $17.50/hr. to start. For specialty jobs I pay my helper $22.50/hr.

Hope this helps.



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What if it was a 3 man crew? That's only $65 per hour, $21.67 per man hour. All of the sudden a big crew brings that down to $17.50. That's not profitable.
A 3-man crew would be $172.50/man hr. ($57.50 X 3). A 2-man crew would be $115./man hr. ($57.50 X 2). Myself is $40-$45/hr.
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Its really great posts.

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Not sure about the hourly 3 man and 2 men pricing
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