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post #1 of Old 03-07-2014, 10:09 AM Thread Starter
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Need advice on big office cleaning bid.

I have the chance to bid on a office building aprox. 200 000 sq.feet surface to clean.
Just offices, bathrooms, storage rooms, allways, lunch room, stairwells and a conference room.
Duties: dusting, vacuuming, mopping, emptying trash cans, clean and sanitize, arrange forniture.
80% carpet; 20% tiles. Carpet cleaning can be arranged separately.

Frequency 5 days/week.

I was calculating 10 people for 4 hours a day.

Asking price 12500/13500 per month.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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post #2 of Old 03-07-2014, 06:35 PM
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Wow, that is a large account! It looks like your estimating a production rate of 5,000 square ft. per hour for this job. At 5 days a week, make sure you take into consideration that things like dusting offices and storage rooms generally will not need to be done everyday unless there is some reason why dust would accumulate so quickly (like an industrial facility for example). Bathrooms would be done daily, but they also may take a lot less time to clean when you're hitting them everyday. It depends on the amount of use. The lunch room and trash would be done daily. Take a good look at the tasks that would need to be done each day, you may be able to knock some man hours off your total, which would allow you to service the account with less people. The other consideration would be perhaps considering 4 full-time day porters at 8 hrs per day each. Your client may like the idea of having a full-time janitorial staff at their disposal for such a large facility. This would reduce the number of people you would need to hire and supervise. Good luck!

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I think that you are right where you need to be on manhours (40 hours per night). If you're dealing with a property manager, then you're at 6.5 cents per sq.ft. which is damn cheap but probably where you need to be to get the job. I would probably start out asking for $14,000.00 per month but a Hovnanian building that size would want to be at your price. It will be a pain in the ass to try to keep them dusted at your price!
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post #4 of Old 03-08-2014, 10:47 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks, both of you for your answers.
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[QUOTE=jahra352;49437]I think that you are right where you need to be on manhours (40 hours per night). If you're dealing with a property manager, then you're at 6.5 cents per sq.ft. which is damn cheap but probably where you need to be to get the job. I would probably start out asking for $14,000.00 per month but a Hovnanian building that size would want to be at your price. It will be a pain in the ass to try to keep them dusted at your price!
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Would be dealing with a property management always makes the price shrinks? And is it correct to assume that the bigger the building the lower the price for sq.foot? I mean for a 150 000 sq.f I could probably ask 8 or 9 cents ,and for a 80/100 000 sq.f I could probably ask from 10 to 12 cents?
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Yes and yes!
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post #7 of Old 03-16-2014, 04:58 PM
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I'm cleaning a 12,000 sq foot office. 60 employees.
4 bathrooms with 3 stalls each and a 15 person kitchen.
I read some of the pricing on here and it shocks me.
According to what I've read I should charge about 1500 to 2000
A month to clean this 5 days a week! How do I make money on that
If my employees are actually American citizens that pay
Taxes and I pay taxes on top of that plus tax on
Whatever profit I make. Can someone please suggest a
Price to clean 12,000 sq feet 2x a week ( in PA)
That doesn't make me feel like I'm in sane. Thanks.
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I'd give you a price but am afraid they would come after you with a butterfly net! I think that you could still earn a living at $2,000.00 per month on that 12,000 sq.ft. of space. Since you are already cleaning this office space, what are you currently charging. Remember that the price per cleaning will drop as you add on more cleaning days. Once per week cleaning might be $300.00 per night while 5 x per week cleaning may drop to under $100.00 per night.
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post #9 of Old 03-16-2014, 09:51 PM
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Lol!! Thanks for responding. Still seems
Like that's not enough. We supply all the
Materials except for soaps,sanitizer and
Paper towel refills. It's a close friends
Business that we clean for so the job is ours
But I don't want to rob them either.
Really want to give them a fair price.
We've been doing this for about 10 months
And are cleaning 6 buildings for them.
I've been amazed at how little some
Companies charge. I was given more
Buildings to do and we turned them
Down because I wouldn't and couldn't match
The price. Very hard to find the miracle
Formula to price a job. Learning quickly
Though.
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post #10 of Old 03-16-2014, 09:54 PM
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I'm currently charging 800 a week for 2
Cleanings. Sorry I neglected to mention that.
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post #11 of Old 03-16-2014, 11:36 PM
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Then you are getting less then if you charge $2,000.00 per month for 5 x per week cleaning. You are cleaning 9 nights now per month at $800.00 per month which is $88.88 per cleaning. If you cleaned 5 x per week at $2,000.00 per month then 22 cleanings per month = $90.91 per cleaning. I would charge between $1,795.00 - $1,995.00 per month for that job. Labor costs should be 4 hours per night , 22 cleanings per month, 88 hours per month x $11.00 per hour (damn good pay for my area!) = $968.00 per month for labor payroll. Add 30% for taxes, insurance and chemicals and it becomes $1,258.40. I charge $1,895.00 per month and I'm right at 30% profit. Put 10 of these accounts together and you're making $6,370.00 per month or $76,400.00 per year!
Now add 20 more of these accounts on and you'll be getting your checks sent to your Key West address!
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