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View Poll Results: Do you clean green?
We are 100% green. 2 15.38%
We offer green cleaning as an option. 3 23.08%
We don't clean green. 4 30.77%
What is 'Green Cleaning'? Is that money laundering? 4 30.77%
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post #21 of Old 11-06-2006, 11:37 PM
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We offer it to customers who touch on health issues or have expressed issues with allergies, etc. We never hear anyone ask about green cleaning, per se.

Adding to the questions above - if "green cleaning" is "THE RIGHT WAY" why are other products still being produced? If there are products which truly are provably "healthier/ greener"...why are the manufacturers not concerned about law suits for the "bad" stuff...???
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post #22 of Old 11-25-2006, 08:12 PM
 
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We only do "green cleaning". It's not an option. We do commercial offices only. If you are cleaning for a living you are exposing yourself to unnecesary risks. There are safer products than the traditional ones that we used for years. It took some research but we have found good products and have had good sucess with them. Our employees love them and our customers appreciate what we are doing. Also we not putting unnecesary toxins into the environment.
You have to look at the big picture. If you don't do it now then when?
More and more companys and state and local governments are mandating green cleaning. You need to get on board now or miss the boat. If I can offer any help or advise I would be more than happy to.

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post #23 of Old 11-26-2006, 12:10 AM
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What Is Green Cleaning?
The standards as they stand right now, for a cleaning chemical to be considered green it has to fit the following criteria
  • * Made of readily bio-degradable components
    * Low or No toxicity to humans &/or Aquatic life
    * No Carcinogens, sensitizers, teratogens or mutagens (agents that are capable of causing developmental abnormalities in utero or capable of changing genetic materials)
    * No Endocrine disrupters
    * No phosphates, chlorine bleach or harsh solvents
    * Low VOC (volatile organic compounds)
    * Made of renewable ingredients and in Concentrated Formulas to reduce wasted packaging and fuel

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post #24 of Old 11-26-2006, 05:46 AM
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Which Is It? Market Reality Or Health Issue? How Do You Know?

My take:

In the end, we are asked to "believe" the so-called stakeholders (manufacturers and other organizations) who stand to directly benefit from going "green"....

We are asked to "believe" that "green" products are healthier than other products without really having the tools at our disposal to know the facts. We are asked to "believe" these things by those who CONTINUE to produce and sell "unhealthy" products, so the real question is...why should we "believe" them?

The efforts of the "Green Machine" have been focused largely on getting government to mandate their products while at the same time continuing to produce and sell obsolete and comparatively "dangerous" products.

Their strategy is for government to FORCE EVERYONE to buy in - when logic should dictate that if the products are as they claim - the old products should be OUTLAWED, following their own strategic reasoning. But NOOOooooo....they really want it BOTH WAYS! And the reason for doing so is crystal clear. Prices for "green" products are still high, and they want to milk the process.

All other things being equal, a provably (keyword!) healthier, environmentally friendly/ safer product should be the only product available. Why should good health and environment be accessible only for those with a bigger budget?
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I can understand the skepticism. It's a good thing. That's why I started to do research on this about 2 years ago. Nobody should blindly follow what anybody says. Common sense is paramount. We started with researching the base chemicals in our products and compared them with the chemicals in the newer "Green products". The information can be overwelming. There are hundreds if not thousands of sources on the web. Everything from health issues,the effect on the environment,how the chemicals are manufactured what the manufacturers claims about their products are. Then we compared them to scientific studies from all over the world including government,health organizations,independent research groups etc. Again common sense is paramount. We believe there are ligitimate concerns and better alternatives.
The alternatives also needed to be researched because not all products that claim to be "Green" are. We found that Green Seals standards are a good bechmark.
Again skepticisim is a good thing....

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post #26 of Old 11-29-2006, 03:22 PM
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Nathan - interesting that you mention "green cleaning" as an "up-sell"....but that's exactly what the manufacturers are doing ! So-called "green" products are more costly, at least up front - and touted as being the latest & greatest...etc...

But I really think as you do - that if there's TRULY only one right, safe, healthy product - it should be the standard. So why do THEY want it both ways?
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Green cleaning has saved me green! I use HydrOxi Pro concentrated cleaner. I'm still learning just what this product does, but so far I'm impreased! It is a green seal certified product made by CORE Products. You can check out their website-www.coreproductsco.com
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We use H2ORANGE2 from Envirox. It's EPA registered 5 minute sanitizer. At the dilution for sanitizer it works out to about .79 per quart. At the dilution for general purpose cleaner it works out to about .08 per quart. It's also Green Seal certified.

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I'll check that out. Thanks
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H2ORANGE2.COM is the web site.

We use several products from them.


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$0.79 / quart ? TOO MUCH !!

We use so-called "green" products at limited locations and they are far less expensive than that ! In the neighborhood of 5-6c per quart, which is 2-3 times regular chems' cost.

Green is a rip, IMO.
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In the neighborhood of 5-6c per quart, which is 2-3 times regular chems' cost.
Joel,

I have done the math on alot of lines of Chems, which ones are you using that cost out that low?
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Is the chem. your using a EPA reg. sanitizer?
We use it for toilets and sinks. The general purpose cleaner for everything else if microfiber dosn't work.
I would like to know which ones you use also.

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I promote myself as an "Earth-friendly, Non-toxic Home & Office Cleaning" company. I just started out a few months ago and originally used "green" products. I guess I haven't had to "upgrade" all of my equipment/supplies because I started out that way already. I clean for quite a few people who are concerned with fumes and residue. I guess I just started out bidding high to cover my supply costs already.
I also enjoy the aromatherapy side to the cleaning!!!

oh, and I'm a newbie here! love the forums!!
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No, it's actually an EPA registered disinfectant cleaner. Almost any brand of EPA registered disinfectant cleaner should yield 64 gallons of RTU product...if not 128 gallons (1 - 2 oz per gallon of water)

We're paying about $6 / gallon for ours so you can see that we're actually paying less than 10 cents per gallon. (I overestimated originally !)

Even if you're paying $20/ gallon - you'd only be costing out at 31-32 cents/ gallon (not per quart) if you're using commercial grade products.

At 79 cents/ quart - you're paying WAAAaaayyy too MUCH !!


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Is the chem. your using a EPA reg. sanitizer?
We use it for toilets and sinks. The general purpose cleaner for everything else if microfiber dosn't work.
I would like to know which ones you use also.

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